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Are you ready to shatter the chains of your past inner child healing can rewrite your beliefs and unleash your true potential.

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Did you know that most people that are stuck in their past can actually never come out of it.

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But today, our expert who is Jouli, she is going to help us to unwind this myth that we have to stay stuck on our past stories.

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Are you with me?

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If you are then stay tuned.

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So welcome everyone to another episode of Super Charge Your Souls Podcast.

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And today we have Jouli Hariri all the way from Czech Republic Prague and I love that because I’ve never had an expert and healing mentor from there.

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So Jouli, welcome to the show.

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Hello everyone and thank you as well.

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Temple for inviting me to your podcast.

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So you know what?

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It’s a pleasure because I have been stalking her on Instagram and I checked out all of her videos every like all of her videos and I’m like, damn, something about this woman I really need to connect with and Jouli, I just want to tell you that I know your story partly.

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And of course, all of our listeners will know your story today and how you helped yourself to really come out of the trauma that you had within you and how you help.

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And this is all the topic today.

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Our topic today is about inner child healing.

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So I am super excited about this conversation.

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Me too.

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And yes.

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So, so Jouli as someone who has studied the patterns of unhealthy relationships stemming from childhood, how do you recognize these patterns in your own practice?

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And what strategies have you found most effective for transforming relationships through inner child healing?

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Yeah.

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To be honest, I think I always grew up with the idea that everything has a pattern.

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You can find patterns everywhere and everyone does have their own patterns and life is just funny because it always reveals these patterns to you unexpectedly.

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So the thing that I like to go with is that what you don’t heal, ends up revealing itself over and over until you heal it and then it stops.

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So because everyone has patterns, it’s kind of expected that they’re gonna have some form of pattern that they keep following since that pattern is going to follow a belief system.

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So as long as the belief is there and it doesn’t change, you’re gonna keep repeating the behaviors that match with the belief.

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So I always try to focus on understanding why the belief is there from the beginning.

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So starting at the foundations and just understanding like where did it all start from?

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Why did it start?

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And as long as you can target the foundation.

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So for example, if you’re building a home and the foundation is weak, once you start to rebuild that foundation and make it stronger, then the house is going to be stronger.

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But if you’re just focusing on the windows and the doors and the foundation is not stable, that house can still crumble.

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So that’s actually how to recognize the pattern.

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And just keep having that curiosity to understand why it’s there and just go back in your past to understand.

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When did it start as well?

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I love that.

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I love that, having the curiosity of why it’s there, you know, why am I doing this and just questioning yourself and very cool.

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So Jouli tell us about you and your journey and I know it’s not, it’s not a typical story of trauma.

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So I just want to tell our listeners that if you have any sort of, you know, it’s like a red flag.

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If you hear stories like that and you feel like you get triggered, then please pause this podcast, take a break and then come back to this podcast again.

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But Jouli tell us why did you decide to become a healing mentor?

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What happened in your life that you felt like?

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Oh, you know, I really want to heal this myself.

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So then I can go ahead and heal others.

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Great question.

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It actually came based off of the previous question we spoke about.

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So I always understood patterns exist and I understood, I also have my own patterns and a lot of them were being toxic or having just toxic behavior towards friends and families and even towards my own self.

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So ever since I was a child, I’ve always been interested in trying to understand these patterns.

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I just didn’t know how.

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So for over 10 years, all I did was research about psychology, about the mindset about self help.

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I read so many books, but it still felt stuck.

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I didn’t know why.

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And I remember last year, at the beginning of last year, that’s when I suddenly got this epiphany that for everything to start, it needs to start somewhere.

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And that’s when I was like, OK, I need to look into my foundations and looking into that, the foundations.

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That’s when I realized that as a child, I grew up with a narcissistic father figure.

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And it wasn’t easy because I still had to go through those experiences.

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But at the time, I didn’t understand that they were bigger than they were.

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And I also ended up being in a narcissistic relationship.

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So that was a pattern.

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I kept dealing with narcissists over my life and seeing that I, I kept repeating it, I was like, enough, is enough.

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So I went to therapy and I still remember telling my therapist like, I need to figure it out, I’m seeing a pattern and help me basically.

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And that’s when my therapist told me about the inner child concept.

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And again, I still remember she just told me, like, visualize yourself as a child because that’s what the concept is all about.

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Just visualizing.

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There’s a child in front of you A K A U and it connected all the dots for me.

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So the moment I realized that I had to take care of myself and because no one taught me how I now can imagine this child I can take care of, which is me.

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It changed everything for me.

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So it’s really like just put all the pieces together.

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And I started on this healing journey and I’ve always wanted to help other people.

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So the fact that I was able to heal myself and then help others do the same thing, just like I was able to learn and give myself that experience.

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That’s what keeps me going.

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Honestly, I love that.

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I love that you came from a background where your dad was a narcissist and we both of us have similar backgrounds.

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So I have mentioned this in a couple of my other podcasts, earlier ones that my dad was one.

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I did not know that until he passed away.

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Then I figured, oh my God, why am I always in a relationship where I’m always attracting narcissists?

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And then I came across a research that maybe if, if I share it’s probably going to help our listeners that a lot of narcissistic fathers if they have daughters, somehow their daughters mirror and they ha they mirror they marry, they get in love with boyfriends or all of their relationships are usually narcissist.

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So basically, we are marrying our fathers over and over and over again until we recognize our self worth and inner child healing.

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So, thank you for telling us about the inner child healing concept.

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For those of people that don’t even know about this.

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What does that mean?

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Give us like the basics?

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What is inner child healing?

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Right?

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So the inner child concept is actually just a visualization concept.

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So it’s just a way for you to see things differently, so you can understand them better.

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But in reality, that inner child just represents your subconscious mind or in other words, it represents this deep down authentic self.

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So, you know, with people, you try to show them this part of you that’s like maybe strong, maybe fine but deep down, you have the pain, the emotions, the thoughts that you might even never share with other people.

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So that deep down part is the inner child.

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The reason why we call it the inner child is because it kind of represents a child in which usually that inner side of you.

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It’s curious, it’s playful, it’s fine, it likes life and loves to live and do new things.

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But then because of the experiences that we go through and the pain, that’s what actually starts to affect us and starts to wound us to the point where we become destroyed or even we lose ourselves.

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So again, it’s just a visualization concept where we start to imagine that child.

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And for me personally, I love it because I feel like when you’re thinking about a child, you wouldn’t harm a child.

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But if you think about an adult, you would think about harming an adult because they’re adults.

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So the moment I start to reflect on myself and instead of thinking of myself as an adult, I think of myself as a child, I become much sweeter and compassionate with myself, which is I think what we all kind of need.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, we do because of our past trauma, that inner child is not, it is basically fed a lot of toxicity that when we grew up as adults, we just give that toxicity outwards and what we actually need is love and compassion and hope for ourselves.

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So given, ok, so my focus on a lot of my clients is on obviously inner child work and also the impact of critical voices from our past on self worth and how women or anyone who suffers from trauma.

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First of all, they don’t have a relationship with inner child, their own inner child.

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And imagine that now they’re an adult and they have these crazy voices going up in their head, which is all negative beliefs, negative voices, which causes us to become, you know, super duper imposter.

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What, how do you guide women in changing their self beliefs to really boost their confidence?

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What would be like a couple of strategies that you can give our listeners?

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OK.

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So to discuss the critical voices, I think it’s important to kind of use it as an example to apply to the inner child concept.

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So right now, let’s say I’m having critical voices where I’m thinking that I’m a failure, I can’t achieve what I want.

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And I’m just not good enough.

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So by applying the inner child concept, I can reframe it just like a child might come to their mother and go like mom, I’m a failure.

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Mom, I’m gonna fail the test.

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Mom.

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No one likes me as a mom.

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You’re not going to tell that child like, oh yeah, you’re right.

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No one likes you.

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You’re going to actually go for the child and tell them that’s not right.

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You know, if you studied for the test, if you did your best, that’s all that matters.

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And that’s kind of what we have to do with ourselves.

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So when we start getting these voices, we just need to be the mom and go like, ok, I understand you have these voices, these thoughts, but you’re doing fine.

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So in reality, these voices, actually, they’re not facts, they’re emotions.

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So one of the things I hear a lot of people say is that you need to avoid the voices, you need to not think about them.

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I actually believe the opposite.

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Instead of thinking about the words, think about the emotions behind the voices.

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Because when you’re telling yourself you’re a failure or you’re not good enough that is coming from an emotion, usually, for example, fear.

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So by facing that emotion and by, you know, comforting yourself to reduce that fear, that voice starts to go away.

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So that’s one strategy process, the emotion behind the thoughts and not the thoughts themselves.

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And then the next strategy I like to use is I call it like building a table strategy.

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So again, another visualization concept, but basically, these critical voices can also be your beliefs.

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So when you tell yourself, I am a failure for you to believe that that means you have evidence.

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So you have stories where you failed and you tell yourself like you remember that story, I am a failure.

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So the belief system simply works because any belief is gonna have supporting evidence, like your stories, your experiences and it forms a table.

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So the point of healing is to learn and then we unlearn what we don’t like and we relearn good things, the things that we want to learn.

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So again, you have the old table with the old belief system, we can challenge these thoughts and then build another table with a new belief that says, for example, instead of I’m a failure.

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I’m successful and keep gathering evidence and stories to strengthen your table, to add more legs and make it stronger than the old belief that you have.

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Hm, I love that.

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Can you give us an example of how you used something like this, especially your own beliefs or your own negative thoughts and how you change them using your own strategy?

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OK.

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So the first strategy which is like processing the emotions, I do have imposter syndrome.

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So I think on a daily basis, I tell myself like you can’t do that.

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You’re not good enough, you’re not smart enough and I just process the emotion.

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So whenever I feel like I reached the point where I just believe I can do anything, I tell myself, ok, don’t work, sit down, process your emotions.

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What are you feeling?

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You’re feeling tired, you’re feeling scared.

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OK?

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Let’s make you relax.

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Let’s have a self care night for an hour or two and then ask for the other side, you know, you’re doing your best.

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Let’s put a pause and try again tomorrow.

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And once again, like I’m talking to myself trying to process the emotion, giving myself a break and then the same thing with the belief system.

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So just like if I have the belief, I’m a failure, then I’m gonna change that belief to I am successful.

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And that’s something I’ve been doing, working on my dream goals.

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And then every time I find a small achievement on my journey.

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I add it to the table and bit by bit.

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I’m achieving more and more.

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And, you know, you’re not the only one who suffers from imposter syndrome, like me too.

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You know, and it’s, and I’m not ashamed of it because I feel even the President has imposter syndrome.

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I know Beyonce has an impostor syndrome before she goes on stage.

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So most humans, we suffer from imposter syndrome is just a thing and we can totally overcome it just by getting that thought.

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And here’s what I do.

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If I’m getting a thought, oh my God, this didn’t work for me.

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I’ll say I’ll just, I’ll sit with myself and I’ll keep repeating the opposite because I’ve done it enough times.

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I’ll just say this is going to work.

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Just wait, it’s going to work, just wait for it to work.

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And I have the faith that it’s going to work.

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And parts of me used to believe things like I’m not good enough.

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I’m ugly.

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I don’t speak well and I’m like, screw this dimple.

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You’re a good speaker because I used to stutter.

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I think I’ve mentioned this over and over again in my podcast.

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I used to stutter.

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I still stutter when I get very emotional.

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I can’t even talk.

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So if I, if I am normal, I can have a conversation.

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If I’m emotional, I’m gonna, I’m gonna be like, 0000, I’m gonna stay stuck.

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You know.

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So this is great.

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So you’re saying, basically sit with the emotion, I love that and then process the emotion.

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Can we just stick with that for a moment?

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Can you tell us ways that women can process emotions?

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And I’m just thinking from your Instagram, I’ve seen you sitting under the shower, you know, taking your video and you’re just allowing to process your emotion.

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That’s one way of processing emotions.

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Right?

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Exactly.

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There are so many ways and I think that’s where my platform comes in.

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So I, when I started healing, I wanted to find every single way to heal because I do believe just like there’s a million and one ways to make money, there’s a million and one ways to heal and even silly things like taking a break, watching a movie can actually get you on your healing journey like bit by bit.

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So as long as you find the things that work for you and that you’re passionate about, then they can help you with your healing.

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So some of the tools I use, for example, personally, I love music, I love dancing.

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So these two are huge on my list.

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But for example, someone who prefers writing is gonna choose journaling.

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Someone who prefers massages might, you know, prefer some E F T tapping.

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Someone who prefers meditation, would prefer yoga as well to you.

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So find tools and find activities that just connect to you and that help you release or express and it differs from a person to a person, of course.

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Yeah.

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Very cool.

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So I have explored how childhood experiences can affect career progress.

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So someone who’s suffering from not connecting to their inner child can definitely have impacts in their career, right?

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So from your perspective, how does inner child healing help break free from career limitations?

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And what advice would you give to those who are feeling stuck in their careers?

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Ok.

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Anyone that knows me, knows how much I preach being happy and passionate, especially when it comes to your job because that’s a third of your life, like eight hours a day, the third of your day.

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And if you don’t like what you’re doing, then you’re not gonna, you’re not gonna be happy in your life.

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That’s what I see most people that happens to them.

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And oftentimes when you speak about career, we also speak about dream jobs.

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And I always feel like the perfect career for someone needs to be connected to who they are as a person and their values.

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And it’s not shocking that often, for example, certain people that have been through experiences like having strict parents end up working in law enforcement.

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So you kind of see this or like people that want to help others, they often also come from trauma and then you know, their purpose is to help other people.

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So your past is heavily connected to what you want to do and working with your inner child makes things easier because whatever you want to work on having that goal, it can be very lonely since you’re the only one working on it.

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It’s your dream goal, not everyone’s dream goal.

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And when you have that inner child, it becomes kind of like a team where you kind of can handle the adult responsibilities, the logic.

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But then when you do want to have that passion, that fun, you just let it for your inner child to do the work.

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So that’s actually what I do in my job.

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Whenever I do the fun stuff like the filming, I allow the inner child to take over.

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I’m just having fun.

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I’m not overthinking it.

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But then when I’m dealing with, let’s say accounting.

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No, that’s like Serious Jouli.

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Yeah.

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It feels less lonely.

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Cool.

18:43
So you have like different names for your inner child.

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No, it’s still Jouli.

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It’s like baby Julian and me.

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It’s just so nice.

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Ok.

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OK.

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So it’s the adult is called Serious Jouli and baby Jouli is your inner child.

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Yeah, because we kind of it, it’s just like other relationships, we all people and because we’re dealing with an inner child that someone needs to be the parent.

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So you kind of actively become the parent and the child as opposed to when you’re a kid and you have your own parent, which are your mom and your dad.

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Mhm Very cool.

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So I also understand that a lot of people that suffer, that haven’t connected from their inner child or haven’t connected with the inner child also suffer from guilt and shame.

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So let’s suppose there is this woman, she does not know what inner child healing means and she has a lot of guilt and shame of herself.

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How do you help these individuals release their feelings through inner child healing?

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And what results have you observed?

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And it could just be your own personal story too.

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Yeah, I love this topic because what actually made me go viral with whatever I’m doing was actually this exact topic.

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Gold.

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So I think the way I approach guilt and shame is that first of all, I hate those feelings, but personally, when I feel guilty or shameful, I feel like I’m punishing myself.

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So I call these punishment emotions because the reason why you feel guilty or shameful is because the things that you’re doing or whatever situation happened does not align with your values.

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So now you have this internal conflict and you’re like blaming yourself.

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And of course, if we use the inner child concept now, deep down, we feel bad, we made a mistake.

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That’s why we feel guilty or shameful.

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And of course, if you have a child that comes to you and like they broke a vase, you might get angry at the beginning, but you’re not going to blame the child forever, you’re gonna understand that they did a mistake.

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You’re gonna sit down and speak to them and tell them like, did you learn your lesson?

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Don’t repeat it.

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OK.

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Nothing bad happened.

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Let’s move on.

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So you’re gonna like sympathize with the child and it’s the same thing with yourself.

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You did a mistake, then you need to sympathize with yourself.

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Tell your promise yourself to not do it again.

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If you can make your wrongs right, then go ahead and do that and be there for yourself, forgive yourself.

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But for you to do that, you actually do need to acknowledge the mistake and just sympathize with yourself instead of just being harsh.

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And I remember when the video went viral, I had a lot of people reaching out to me and it felt overwhelming.

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So I remember asking a lot of people like what made you resonate because honestly, that video wasn’t even the greatest quality.

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It was like bad quality.

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I thought it was like some random video.

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And it, the reason why a lot of people resonated they told me is because they felt like this is something they needed to do to themselves or when they watched it and they tried to replicate it, they started to cry.

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So it’s allowing yourself to be vulnerable, can get you so far.

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And by simply working on self forgiveness, when you do get these feelings of guilt and shame, it can transform your relationship within yourself.

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It’s a big chance and it takes a lot for a person to forgive and to apologize.

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Absolutely.

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Especially when it comes to forgiveness.

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And most women, we don’t forgive ourselves.

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And I know I suffered from that big time until this recently, I literally admitted it to all of my friends.

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And I said, girls, I feel so shameful.

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They’re like, why I’m like, because I did this, this and this and then my friends were like, you know what, you know what we did.

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So when they shared their story, I’m like, oh my God.

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Now, I don’t feel too bad, you know, and I even acknowledged the fact to my husband and I’m like, damn, I was carrying all this guilt and shame within me and sometimes it’s not even a big deal.

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We just put so much pressure on our souls that we feel like we are unworthy.

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So I love that sympathize with yourself.

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OK?

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Let’s talk about another negative symptom of inner child healing which women suffer from is perfectionism.

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I know that’s, that’s a topic of perfectionist or no big time.

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I’m a big time perfectionist.

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I would not submit anything until I check it once, twice, twice, four times.

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I’m like, yeah, I’m a big time perfectionist.

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And then I’m like, screw this, submit it.

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I have come to the point where it doesn’t have to be 10 times, but just once or twice.

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All right, it’s done.

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If there’s a mistake, they’ll tell me.

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Do you feel like there are other symptoms that often come with perfectionism.

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So yeah, so what, what I, what I have seen in my working with clients and including myself and thank God, I am not the crazy woman.

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I was years ago, but I do see women who have perfectionism.

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They also have the achiever pattern.

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So you know, that kind of goes side by side like they’re perfect in their way, but they also want to achieve a lot in their lives.

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And their achieving list could be as simple as I want to make a lot of money or it could be like, I wanna like shoot 20 videos or I wanna do if you have Children, I wanna cook and also meal for my kid.

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And I want to do the laundry today and I want to do the dishes today and I want to clean the floor like hell, hell no, mama not supposed to do that, right?

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Is what I feel.

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So I feel like and I’ve seen this over and over again.

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A perfectionist pattern definitely coincides with the achiever pattern for women.

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What would you tell me?

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I’ve seen perfectionism a lot with CD or personalities, which kind of makes sense because when you’re a perfectionist, you’re, you want everything to be perfect and because nothing can ever be perfect, you feel like you don’t have control.

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So that lack of control leads to a need for control, which just comes out of fear anyway.

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Exactly.

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Actually, it, it all comes from fear.

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So when we speak about perfectionism, a lot of times people that are perfectionists, they come from highly critical parents.

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And as a child, you start forming this relationship where you need to be perfect for you to be loved and be accepted and approved from your parents and then you grow up and that goes all over the place.

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So now you need to be perfect in everything, to gain that love and acceptance and approval from everyone and inspiring.

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That’s why there’s a lot of like control issues connected with perfectionism because you’re always trying to achieve something that you will never achieve.

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And it can have this huge strain negatively on your mental health.

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But as a child, you know that child is feeling insecure, the child is hurt.

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So since you are young to this day, deep down inside, you’re still feeling that pain of not feeling loved or accepted unless you’re in a certain shape or form and usually how to deal with perfectionism.

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It’s again working on the belief system.

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So just like the table having this belief of like I need to be perfect, to be loved is not good.

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So you challenge that belief, remember times when you were loved and accepted, despite not being perfect and then create a new belief that you don’t need to be perfect, to be loved and accepted and successful and all of that.

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And again, try to gain experiences where you messed up, but you still got the results you wanted or you still got the love and the approval of others despite not being perfect.

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So it’s a lot of fear based actions and I have a perfect statement which is I am perfect in my own imperfect ways.

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Doesn’t worry, I’m imperfect and I love that I’m imperfect.

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I think having this belief really gets rid of the perfectionism in that sentence of like I’m perfect in my own way.

26:52
No, I usually always tell this to myself because I had this issue that.

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So I say, I always say I’m like I am perfect in my own imperfect ways, which is, which means I am imperfect anyway.

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And it’s, it’s totally fine.

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Like I don’t have to keep judging myself over and over again.

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What is the intention of the statement is what I was.

27:12
I was trying to share.

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Cool.

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What about any other tips, Jouli?

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And I know you’ve been sharing so much from your experience, any of the tips you have for anyone that’s looking to get started on their inner child, healing any tips.

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So what I would say is if you’re interested in starting it, then this is how I began the journey because at first, you know, connecting with that child can be difficult.

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What I personally did is I found the best thing I love to do and I started to do it with myself like with myself and to myself and that was food.

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I love food.

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It’s my love language.

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And I remember at first, what I used to do is I didn’t know how to connect with that child.

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I, I actually didn’t even have a childhood.

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I don’t remember my childhood.

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So I was like zero.

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And yeah, so I started with, you know, treating that child giving it some candy and then bit by bit, I started to talk to myself in the mirror.

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I also find talking to a baby picture to help a lot because then you’re just seeing yourself and having that conversation.

28:11
Imagine you’re talking to that child like 20 years or 30 years before, what would you say to them while they’re four or five years old and start there?

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And then bit by bit just work on forming this relationship with that child and you do that by of course finding activities to sum it up.

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I think the easiest way to say it is the same things you do for a friend, do it for yourself.

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Cool.

28:37
Thank you.

28:37
Thank you Jouli.

28:38
And where can our audience find you?

28:42
Definitely on my Instagram.

28:44
So Instagram dot com at Jouli Hariri.

28:47
And so far I think it’s gonna be up for Instagram, but then soon enough, hopefully on youtube as well.

28:55
Awesome.

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And we will definitely link her Instagram on the show notes.

28:59
It is Jouli Hariri which is J O U L I and then H A R I R I?

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Awesome, perfect.

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It was wonderful having you on our show, Jouli.

29:12
Thank you so much as well and thank you so much for inviting me to and I wish you all the best.

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Hopefully, we get to have another conversation later.

29:23
Definitely, we are definitely like that.

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Then please let us know.

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Definitely, we are definitely going to bring Jouli back for another conversation because she is a healing mentor and she does different things.

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And we picked this inner child healing and belief system topic just because we thought, all right, let’s start this conversation and we’ll definitely bring her back.

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And for all of our listeners, always remember metamorphosis, not me medication for all of our listeners.

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If you have any question and you really want the answers for it, then feel free to book a 20 minute free consultation with me.

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And if you love this episode, then please give us a review on itunes.

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Thank you so much and see you on another episode.